Hello all!
Currently doing my ATSIMTEST C1.
I have a strange question here. Does anyone know if and how wake turbulence is influenced by speed?
I would personally answer proposition 2 and 3.
Thanks
Luca
wake_turb_c1.jpg
Hello all!
Currently doing my ATSIMTEST C1.
I have a strange question here. Does anyone know if and how wake turbulence is influenced by speed?
I would personally answer proposition 2 and 3.
Thanks
Luca
wake_turb_c1.jpg
Simplified answer that is good enough for ATPL level aerodynamics but nowhere near good enough for aero(-space) engineering.
Wake turbulence is the result of air moving from the underside of the wing to the top around the wing tip creating a vortex.
For factor weight the correlation is obvious, more weight needs more lift for the same load factor, and more lift needs a larger pressure differential leading to a stronger vortex (This btw also works by adjusting the load factor, the 150t zero-G A300 creates less of a vortex in its parabola than a Da-40 in level flight)
The correlation with speed is a little less obvious but here's my attempt at explaining it: If you have a 3D aerofoil you don't just have the streamlines moving over the wing front to back, you also get spanwise flow, especially on swept wings as a result of the general deflection of the air downwards which creates the positive pressure under the wing needed for lift. If you go faster you get more air mass flow over the wing so you need to deflect each unit of air less,, creating less spanwise flow and thus a smaller wake vortex.
In summary vortex strength is:
- roughly proportional to weight
- roughly inversely proportional to the square of the air speed
- roughly inversely proportional to the aspect ratio of the wing
If there's anyone with more of an insight into how it actually works in detail I'd be very interested too though!
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Florian Hofer (06.11.2021), Riccardo Balsamo (07.11.2021)
Thanks for your answer
You lost me there
The faster you fly, the smaller the wake turbulence will be? I find this oddly confusing ...
My reasoning would that the strengh of the wing tip vortex will increase when lift increases, no?
That being sad, flying faster does not mean the lift necessarly increases. In the end, we have to compensate for the same weight...
Slow and heavy -> lots of wake.
In addition these aircraft have their flaps deployed, increasing the turbulence even more.
Luca Santoro (08.11.2021)
Kimon Meier (07.11.2021), Luca Santoro (08.11.2021)
Wake turbulence consists of various components but the most important component is wingtip vortices, as other components are less stable and disappear within seconds (while wingtip vortices are stable for minutes and strictly speaking are not turbulence, as they are not chaotic).
Wingtip vortices occur due to the pressure difference between the upper side of the wing and its lower side. The pressure difference increases with higher angle of attack and flaps, which will increase the strength of wingtip vortices and hence the "wake turbulence".
Nicolas Ammann
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Luca Santoro (08.11.2021), Michael Kühne (08.11.2021), Tim Peter (08.11.2021)